Are we in the Trumpets of Revelation?
There are some that believe we have already experienced the seals judgments in the book of Revelation and are now in the 5th and about to be in the 6th trumpet judgment. Some that believe this see’s the Tribulation starting with the 7th trumpet. Then there are some that believe we are now in the Tribulation. Can either of these be supported Biblically? Well let’s see.
The first point they miss is that we’re told in Daniel chapter 9 verse 27 that the Tribulation will last 7 years, that this 7 years are the last 7 years allotted to Daniel’s people, the Jews. Most of the prophecies of Daniel are revealing what will take place during the 7 years of the Tribulation. We see in Daniel chapter 12, after he has been shown what will be taking place during the Tribulation, with verse 4 we see Daniel is given a scroll and told, “But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end.”. And later in verse 9 he is told, “Go your way, Daniel, because the words are rolled up and sealed until the time of the end”. We see in Revelation chapter 5 Jesus is given this scroll by God the Father and that Jesus is the only one who is found worthy to break its seals and open the scroll. This scroll reveals the judgements of the 7 years of the Tribulation. From reading Revelation we see that it is a continuation of Daniel. Where Daniel gives us a broad overview, Revelation gives us the details. What we see next with chapter 6 is Jesus breaking the seals of this scroll. We also see in Daniel chapter 9 verse 27 that the 7 years of the Tribulation starts with a covenant/peace agreement that the Ruler, the anti-Christ signs with the many, Israel, the so called Palestinian’s and other Islamic nations. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.”. Well, since this hasn’t happened it should be obvious that the Tribulation hasn’t started yet, we cannot be in the Tribulation. There’s not a Temple for the abomination that causes desolation to occur. So, the first seal hasn’t been broken. Jesus hasn’t even been handed the scroll yet. The judgments of the 7th seal are the 7 trumpets. Common sense should show that if the first seal hasn’t been opened then the 7th seal, the trumpets haven’t occurred. Those that believe we have already gone through the seals and are in the trumpets ignore the fact that we are told with Daniel chapter 9 verse 27 that the judgments of the seals, trumpets and bowls/vials are what is inside the scroll of Daniel chapter 12 and Revelation chapter 5 and that we are told this will take place over a 7 year period we now call the Tribulation, and with verse 27 we are told this time begins with the agreement made between the anti-Christ, Israel and the Islamic nations. The first seal of Revelation is actually the releasing, revealing of the anti-Christ. We see this also from Paul in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2.
2 Thes. 2: 1 Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, (the Rapture) we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord (the Tribulation) has already come. 3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day (the Tribulation) will not come until the rebellion (falling away from the truth) occurs and the man of lawlessness ‘man of sin’ (the anti-Christ) is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God. ... This is the abomination that causes desolation. Jesus also mentions this in Matthew chapter 24. 15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand.
Paul also tells us that the Tribulation comes as a thief in the night and people will be saying there now will be peace and safety/security. With the signing of the peace agreement the anti-Christ gets signed between Israel and the Islamic nations, people will be saying now there will be peace. It is with this agreement that it is revealed who the anti-Christ is. This is what starts the 7 years of the Tribulation. Paul tells us in 2 Thes. 2 that the Tribulation does not begin until after the anti-Christ is revealed.
After addressing the Rapture in 1 Thes. chapter 4, Paul addresses how the Tribulation will begin. We don’t know how much time will go by after the Rapture and the signing of this peace agreement. The Rapture is what actually kicks it all off.
1 Thes. 5: 1Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord (the Tribulation) will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety/security,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
So much for the Tribulation starting with the 7th trumpet. By the time of the 7th trumpet there is no peace or safety anywhere in the world. We see with the 2nd seal peace is taken from the earth, the destruction begins.
Since none of this has occurred it should be obvious we are not in the Tribulation, that the first seal hasn’t even been broken. We haven't had a peace agreement made with Israel and, there isn't a Temple in Israel for the anti-Christ to enter causing the abomination of desolation. We see in Revelation chapter 11 there will be a Temple during the Tribulation. But is there anything from the other seals and trumpets that we can see that shows us we are not in the trumpets.
As I pointed out above the Bible shows us that the first seal is the releasing, revealing of the anti-Christ, but those that believe we are in the trumpets believe the first seal represents Catholicism. Well, the description is of a man on a white horse like we see in Revelation chapter 19 of Jesus returning. With him riding on a white horse shows his deception. This rider comes as a false Christ, claiming to be the Messiah; later once Satan has entered him he will claim to be God. Wearing a crown shows him to be as a king, and he rides out as a conqueror bent on conquest. We know from Daniel and Revelation that the man that becomes the anti-Christ becomes the Ruler, King over the whole world. He is not a religious ruler as would be the case with the Pope. We see in Rev. 13 a description of the anti-Christ then of the false prophet. The false prophet will be the religious ruler that brings all the worlds religions together.
Rev. 6: 1I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!” 2 I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
Doesn’t sound like it could be describing Catholicism to me. But what do we see from the other seals and the trumpets.
With the 4th seal we see a war that a fourth of the populations is killed. As of today that would be almost 2 billion killed from just this war. This is not referring to a time span of thousands of years. This is describing a singular event. From history we know that there hasn’t been a war that has killed a fourth of the world’s population. So, the 4th seal hasn’t occurred. Estimates for the total number killed in wars throughout ALL of human history range from 150 million to 1 billion.
With the 6th seal we see a major nuclear strike that causes major earthquakes. We see the mountains and Islands are moved. “14 The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.” The tectonic plates shift.
With the first 4 trumpets we see the effects of more nuclear warfare.
Rev. 8: 7 The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down on the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.
8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9 a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.
10 The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11 the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.
12 The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night.
Well, since we haven’t had a third of the earth burned up, a third of the trees burned up, and all the green grass burned up, a third of the sea turned into blood, a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships destroyed, a third of the waters turned bitter, poisoned, and many people dying from the waters that had become bitter, and since we haven’t had a third of the sun struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark, a third of the day without light, and also a third of the night, it should be clear that we have not enter into the trumpet judgments. We see with the 6th trumpet possibly another 2 billion are killed, a 3rd of what is left of mankind. The world is fully into WWIII.
As I pointed out above, the scriptures tell us that what we see from Revelation chapter 6 thru chapter 19 are what is in the scroll from Daniel chapter 12 and Revelation chapter 5 that we see Jesus opening. None of this has begun yet. At least at the time I am writing this. So we cannot be in the Tribulation or the trumpets of Revelation.
For more on the 7 years of the Tribulation see these posts.
You should learn all you can concerning what the Bible says is coming upon the world so you can share it with your unsaved friends and family. So you can warn them. So they won’t find themselves here during the time of the Tribulation. For our time is short. More importantly they won’t find themselves standing before God the Father as their judge, but will stand before Jesus as their Lord and Savior.
Maranatha, Come Lord Jesus.